Curse

bungusmaximus · Dec 13, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by Lorde

People more or less learned how to deal with Monks, but they have a hard time dealing with Rits. Some people say to kill spirits, other to kill the Rit and on the end they neither.

Brr, well most people don't know how to deal with monks imho. It's more like door opens->ZOMGATTACKMONKFIRSTNUBZLOLOLOLOL. After stomping a monk that is loaded with prot to begin with they usually don't look back to see what's happening to their own backline. Usually I take good linebacker builds with hammers, shock, lots of cripple and whatnot because I'm usually the one that also thinks a little bit about defense while the rest is wailing on a monk that doesn't drop.

dont feel no pain · Dec 13, 2007, 12:28 PM // 12:28

what makes me go (-.-) is when i enter with a team of say mesmer,necro,warrior,ranger and the opposing team monk, spirit spam rit, heal rit, necromancer....

(-.-)

Lorde · Dec 13, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Another good thing about RA...

I had a worse win ratio (or less awful loss rate if you prefer) against Rits. After a while, I noticed the skills they used, search about it and decided to kill spirits first, Rit latter.

Eventually, things started to improve and I started to win a bit more.That learning experience, of failure, research, success, I only found on RA. Same thing happened when I changed my attack chain to a unblockable one after noticing everybody brings some blocking stance.

bhavv · Dec 13, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Yesterday I encountered so much crap that I was raging irl to avoid getting banned for conduct.

I win 1, lose, win 1, lose, lose 5, win 2, lose. Mostly cause my team doesn't know how to attack the right thing. I can't solo 4 guys by myself and it doesn't help when only I'm attacking the monk. I probably had about 5 good guys on my team out of 40 or so runs. Oh well.

This happens to me all the time unless I monk. Thats why my monk likes to grieve from time to time. Today I was playing mesmer in a monkless team and after seeing a wammo cast mending AND live vicariously, typed /resign, ran up to the enemy and let them kill me.

Wammo - 'OMG you nub mesmer'

O.o

garethporlest18 · Dec 13, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by bhavv

This happens to me all the time unless I monk. Thats why my monk likes to grieve from time to time. Today I was playing mesmer in a monkless team and after seeing a wammo cast mending AND live vicariously, typed /resign, ran up to the enemy and let them kill me.

Wammo - 'OMG you nub mesmer'

O.o

I've had 55 monks on my team, and everytime I don't have a monk I face a monk . Almost EVERY match.

You gotta sit in dist 1 and say:

WARRIORS! You go for monks>rits/mesmers/necros (depending on build)>eles'>sins>dervishes>other warriors.
Sometimes though, the warriors on the other team are silly and attack the warrior on my team so then it negates itself in that respect, although we still will probably die.

Nearly every other class should target the monk unless they are setup to be anti melee. Ele's if you have blind, blind warrior, then go after priority targets.

Monks please kite/hide behind things, don't stand in one place.

Everyone besides monk: Don't overextend!

NOTE on the priority of the targets, sometimes it can be different depending on the builds you face, sometimes someone else on your team should go after something else etc etc. Knowing what skills do what helps to do this. Also note that I'm not a top or pro or good pvp player even, so wait till a pro comes in to correct my mistakes and then follow the advice.

bhavv · Dec 13, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Gareth your points are correct and make you sound like a pro arena player to me.

So right now I was monking and my warrior was attacking a Geo Tank throughout the whole match /epic fail.

darkdreamr · Dec 13, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17

This is making me want to play some ray. Me as mesmer, bit of melee pressure, good monk, good rit and we'll do it right quick.

You can't see me · Dec 13, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Personally, I like the Random Arenas because it's a nice source of fame if you come in with a half decent build, and I find it much less annoying than TA, where some moron wants you to either run some idiotic build that you know will never work, or a wiki TA build that is easily counterable, and doesn't listen to reason when you try to explain it to him.

Kaelyn the Dove · Dec 13, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by darkdreamr

This is making me want to play some ray. Me as mesmer, bit of melee pressure, good monk, good rit and we'll do it right quick.

Not in RA, in RA it will be more like this:
You set up as anti-cast mesmer, get teamed with two other dom mesmers and a monk who thinks healing breeze is the best heal in the game, and the opposing team has three narutards and a mediocre monk who is miles better than the one on your team, because he at least uses prot.

bhavv · Dec 13, 2007, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Healing breeze is good now, use it with prot spirit, D kiss and woh.

ensoriki · Dec 13, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Lol stop saying go for monks

Say

Go for non-smite monks.
Give smiters a chance!

bhavv · Dec 14, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

Yea lol. Give my monk assasin with daggers a try plox. I want to kill more then just test dummies.

Harrier's haste · Dec 14, 2007, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Lol stop saying go for monks

Say

Go for non-smite monks.
Give smiters a chance!

you're contradicting yourself.....< Go for non-smite monks.Give smiters a chance!>

ensoriki · Dec 14, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

you're contradicting yourself.....< Go for non-smite monks.Give smiters a chance!>

Go FOR NON smite monks

that means attacks non smite monks >.>
Reading is power, although I guess it is an easy to make misunderstanding

Snow Bunny · Dec 14, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

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Originally Posted by Saphatorael

Elaborate, plox.

People run radiant insigs and sup runes in RA.

Evis+Exec+whatever will make short work of that

RhanoctJocosa · Dec 14, 2007, 06:48 AM // 06:48

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Healing breeze is good now, use it with prot spirit, D kiss and woh.

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill]

Harrier's haste · Dec 14, 2007, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Go FOR NON smite monks

that means attacks non smite monks >.>
Reading is power, although I guess it is an easy to make misunderstanding

ahhh i see, i thought you meant by like "yay non smite monks, give smites a chance" and i was like....wtf

bhavv · Dec 14, 2007, 12:06 PM // 12:06

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill]

I dont play cookie cutter wiki builds anymore, especially when I get 10 consecs with woh now

Big_Iron · Dec 14, 2007, 02:20 PM // 14:20

I know it’s probably been said, but I feel I need to reiterate. As we all know, after 10 wins in RA you move on to TA. Some people freak at this point because, for some reason, they think that going up against a team in TA is unwinnable, simply because this team had a choice of who’s on it. This doesn’t make them a good team though.

For instance, I was playing RA the other night and wound up on a decent team after being on a couple of turkeys. We pretty much rolled through RA. When we got to round 11, a couple of the guys freaked. “Oh no! TA! Everyone resign!” I told them to relax and give it a shot. We had nothing to lose. Sure enough, we steamrolled that team as well. Unfortunately, it still didn’t give these guys the boost I thought it would and they still quit before we got to play round 12.

Anyway, the moral is don’t sweat it if you get 10 wins and go to TA. Just because they’ve organized themselves doesn’t mean they’re good.

Lorde · Dec 14, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

I know it’s probably been said, but I feel I need to reiterate. As we all know, after 10 wins in RA you move on to TA. Some people freak at this point because, for some reason, they think that going up against a team in TA is unwinnable, simply because this team had a choice of who’s on it. This doesn’t make them a good team though.

For instance, I was playing RA the other night and wound up on a decent team after being on a couple of turkeys. We pretty much rolled through RA. When we got to round 11, a couple of the guys freaked. “Oh no! TA! Everyone resign!” I told them to relax and give it a shot. We had nothing to lose. Sure enough, we steamrolled that team as well. Unfortunately, it still didn’t give these guys the boost I thought it would and they still quit before we got to play round 12.

Anyway, the moral is don’t sweat it if you get 10 wins and go to TA. Just because they’ve organized themselves doesn’t mean they’re good.

I used to play RA -> TA until I noticed some teams play using ventrillo. After seeing some voice-coordinated spikes I kinda lost the thrill to play on TA.